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Hello.

I ordered 3 Mitsubishi keys PCF7952 434MHz from Aliexpress ( G8D-644M-KEY-E. Model Number: CE1731) , they arrived on friday and i read them with SVCI 2020 Tag tool.
No problem, they are all Mitsubishi precoded and unlocked ,ready to be programmed .

Saturday, i copied 2 Temic 11 for original Piaggio scooter key with same SVCI 2020 Tag tool , i tried them to the scooter and it's OK.

Sunday , i read the Mitsubishi keys and they are all locked as already programmed to a car !

I suspected SVCI have problem, so i read them with and old FVDI but same problem ,all locked !

During Temic reading/programming ,PCF7952 are far from antenna (more than 50 cm).

I don't understand how is this possible.
Has anyone faced this problem before?

It is possible to read/write this PCF7952 with PCF programmer?

Samsara wrote:It is possible to read/write this PCF7952 with PCF programmer?

Yes it possible with PCF Prog, but you should have correct bin file for renew it

Samsara wrote:Sunday , i read the Mitsubishi keys and they are all locked as already programmed to a car !

Are you sure you have default crypto low, crypto hi when reading those keys?

Samsara wrote:they arrived on friday and i read them with SVCI 2020 Tag tool.

In this case I would recommend to use proper tool to read those keys, like HTpro Hitag2, Tango, and etc.

Are you sure you have default crypto low, crypto hi when reading those keys?

Common problem - MMC uses CDP (biphase) instead of Manchester encoding.

Hello.
Both, thanks for quick reply.

Daniulis wrote:Yes it possible with PCF Prog, but you should have correct bin file for renew

There's files here
MITSUBISHI : G8D-644M / 434MHz https://www.transpondery.com/projects/p ... files.html

But, it's possible to read a new one (for example , original Mitsubishi key) then save file for reuse it?

Daniulis wrote:Are you sure you have default crypto low, crypto hi when reading those keys?

Girts wrote:Common problem - MMC uses CDP (biphase) instead of Manchester encoding

Abrites do not show those choices.
Here screenshots of problem key and original used key.
If i choose Password Mode or Manchester before read PCF ,it automatically switch to Cipher and Biphase .

Daniulis wrote: this case I would recommend to use proper tool to read those keys, like HTpro Hitag2, Tango, and etc.

I use Tag tool occasionally and quite rarely ,not enough for bought original tools ,but PCF Prog is not expensive if i can copy original keys.

You can't copy content of PCF cuz mostly all they are locked, even if the key is virgin. You can only erase it and write new data.

Ok,thank you.

PCF7952 are used in somes Mitsubishi keys ,i mean different reference part numbers.
They have differents datas or same for all ?

I don't know lad, I'm not Mitsubishi engineer

Unfortunately

I must bought PCF prog to program those PCF7952 then try to start different models of cars.